SHINee Lucifer controversy (Illuminati or not?)
- July 25th, 2010
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EDIT: Read comments instead; you may ignore this post. They pose a few more sound (and some not so sound) arguments. Thanks.
I’ve been receiving some nasty comments about SHINee because of their Lucifer album and song title. And really guys, isn’t it obvious that I’m a SHINee fan? Do you really think I’d approve a comment that spreads evil rumours about SHINee? (But I greatly welcome any comments about the whole Lucifer story because I know I could be wrong)
First off, SHINee is pronounced SHINY. Not she-nee. So no, the “SHI” in SHINee does not translate to 死 (die in Japanese). Because it’s pronounced as ‘she’. Secondly, a lot of words in Japanese and Chinese are pronounced exactly the same, but the written word is different, so you can’t use this kind of lame evidence to support your lame accusations. Thirdly, SHINee are essentially a Korean group and “shinee” doesn’t mean anything evil (or anything at all, in fact) in Korean.
I don’t claim to be an expert on christianology (in fact, I know very little of it) but I did some research on the topic so I hope to answer the question every one seems to have. Well, not everyone. Just hardcore Christians who have some problems with the use of Lucifer.
But first, where is the connection between SHINee and the illuminati?
Their comeback album and song is titled Lucifer, which you cannot deny has strong roots from religion. But the problem lies wherein people tend to associate it with Satan. And the Illuminati which was a group of rebels or something, who claimed Lucifer as their God. Hence, the controversy.
What is the meaning of Lucifer?
The short version. The song Lucifer has nothing to do with the illuminati or christianity; it’s just a metaphor they use for a girl that’s under the disguise of an angel. And to symbolize entrapment. But you know, nowadays you have to be really careful with what you say, because there’s a lot of nitpickies (people who nitpick) out there who’d take any chance they could to rip you to pieces.
Once again, here’s SMentertainment’s explanation.
“Members using their eye expression to show their main song ‘Lucifer’, in Christianity, Lucifer means the falling angel of the devil. SHINee with a refreshing image in the past activities, showed a big transformation and a feeling of approaching in their 2nd album.
SM expressed that ” A selfish heart, persevering love, wrongly threatened and repeatedly revolving appearance of an angel and devil, lovers having a vague feeling in Lucifer” “The meaning of religion is to have courage”.
The longer (but still short) version. But just for your information, Lucifer was never intended to be synonymous with Satan, or even represented as a fallen angel. He is instead supposed to symbolize a fallen Babylonian King. Lucifer appears in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, in the twelfth verse,
“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
There is no mention nor reference to Satan at all. Just a random name mentioned out of the blue. But ancient priests and whoever who knew a lot about the bible clarified that it was never specified to mean Satan, just the Babylonian King.
Christians and Mormons just happily equated “Lucifer” with “Satan” because they needed to create for themselves a demonic presence, so they used Lucifer as their scapegoat; that’s how injust the world is, and they later used the verse to support their accusations.
Since Lucifer isn’t actually Satan, SHINee isn’t satanic. And just because the Illuminati said that Lucifer was their God, doesn’t mean any future references have to be linked to the illuminati.
So, are the SHINee illuminati? Decidedly not.
What are the illuminati? Some underground group of repressed radicals? Do we really fear the New World Order anymore? I don’t think we need to worry about the illuminati anymore. Or is the question: Did we ever, need to worry?
Besides, in the song lyrics, it’s not like they are saying Lucifer is amazing; in fact, their message is quite the opposite.
P.S I’m not about to approve comments that diss SHINee and spread evil rumours about them.

Hi,
I just saw this week the Shinee Mv.
And i think that clearly the persons who write the song and imagine the MV work for illuminati. I don’t think the band shinee itself is aware of what they are doing, i think they just do what they are told to do. They are not that free to choose song or to remove some they don’t like as you can know many members in KPOP entertainment are working under complicated contract, they are just puppet (see how DBSK members are treated..)
In fact it’s clear for me for many reasons, one of these is we all know that when they sing live, people use to scream and sing with them refrains.
And it will go with the music “Lucifer! Lucifer!”
What do u think they are calling? Of course to believe that this kind of calling produce some effect and it’s dangerous you must be jew, christian, muslim, or … illuminati.
As i’m believer, i know that this kind of thing will produce for sure effects on people who assist in the audience and scream, we will have many possession case in the future by this way and i think we already have cause of this kind of song produced in US.
If you read about illuminati you know that they are waiting for a battle between God and Lucifer and they believe that they have to bring a maximum of adepts to Lucifer that their promise to Lucifer, to obtain eternal life.
Also i just noticed today that their last mv ring ring dong also contain many illuminatis symbolism, so the Lucifer mv and song is just a continuation of that. In ring ring dong, they are wearing black to begin and they say “I’ve fallen, so why treat me like this?” fallen just as Lucifer fall and after it says “Don’t run away in fear” just as people run from the devil, so the devil reassure you and say “but why not try trusting me” and just after “Ring Ding Dong Ring Ding Dong” like “come on it’s the time now to believe in me” and it continues with
“Look, I may not be cool
nice, or anything like that
but I’m a pretty decent bad boy”
Just as Lucifer, in the mv you see them wear black, then you see them periodically in white, jong hyun lit a fire with his hand only.
One of the interesting part is :
“I don’t understand how you
caught the kindness syndrome
But it’s okay if you sometimes
break away from that stereotyped image
Break out (hey)
Break out (hey)
Break out (hey)
Break out (hey)”
In the end you see them finished with angel’s wing, so in this mv they were representing Lucifer in fact which is ringing a bell and waiting for people to come to him, he makes promise and say “Please don’t respond with a ‘no’”.
To finish, i know and i’m pretty sure of it again that the band doesn’t understand the meaning but it’s for me pretty obvious that there’s a meaning, and that those song produce effects on people.
That’s my point of view, just be carefull.
@poli
thanks for your input, but i’d say that you’re really overthinking it.
yes, white and black are very symbolic colors of purity and darkness respectively. but don’t you think that white, black and red are very bold colors as well? which solely serve the purpose of being fashionable in a modern context?
there are distinct references to angels but they serve as a biblical allusion to pure creatures;
i believe everyone is just making grabbing at the littlest of details, in the dark, to come up with some ‘proof’ for their hypothesis.
well, everyone has a right to their own opinion.
Hello Mireillie,
It’s not only a question of colours, if you watch closely the mv, you see many things related to what i say, the mv represent a story and the story is i think close to what i’ve told. And if you really read the songs it’s more then details that you have, the song is clear…
Anyway i just, as a believer, wanted to inform about it. Because i was really atonished, i thought only US Music was contamined, i was naive.
PS: You have the same kind of thing with the “amoled” cf of son dambi with the eye to begin and the eye to finish (illuminati’s symbol). black in the begining, white in the end in the sky, and she wears also feather at a moment, she’s like opening a door with her hand, and shinee is just like opening something too when they do rocka rocka part. she’s also drawing the eye when she says amoled refrain.
You have those kind of things in many KPOP mv now..
Hi guys/girls,
I’m a fan of Shinee too and I do also think of their new ‘Lucifer’ song and MV. It’s good to know there are fans who still stand on their two feet and not just loving everything the idols are doing. But in Shinee’s case, I prefer to think that they are doing what they think is good for the group and of course being a little bit mysterious and controversial is one of the way. Regardless of what the man behind the song is propagating of whom and what, the song and the MV is escalating Shinee’s stardom for good.
And though maybe not all but, some of the members are pretty faithful with their religion. So i really dont think they are meant to call for the demon or devil and such.
KPOP music industry is a really competitive one and to survive, a really outstanding masterpiece is a big must. Religious and demon symbols help into that and it is not new in the scene. It’s just a matter of how the interpretation (or exploitation?) is done
Nevertheless, i really hope they are not one of the freak and weird religious cult members. Juz my few cents though, no offense..
I agree with poli :( sadly
I love shinee but when I saw the title it really upset me..
Then illuminati has taken over many of the visual kei Japanese rock bands aswell..
And it angers me to see that..
I absolutly greatly dislike the illuminati..an I can’t wait until the day they just leave an are no longer powerful … They r ruining my music!!! Lol
weird how SHINee are being lambasted for being “puppets” of the illuminati (which isn’t even proven) but christians aren’t for being the exact same of /God/.
it’s amazing how many people are still living in the middle ages. Wake up and smell the present. We aren’t threatened by a NWO.
To add on to this, i like shinee too, but whether they know or not its definitely satanic haha.
Are you guys familiar with Baphomet? Look it up!
at the end of the mv of Lucifer, look at the position of the hands :P
Then there is the one eye symbol that is VERY obvious in the MV by Taemin
1:07 Devil Horns by Taemin (look at the hand)
Also, Robotronic? COME ON!
Personally, i think whoever wrote this just wrote a love song to Lucifer haha.
That’s insulting to say that people who believe in God are just “living in the middle age”.
Someone who knows clearly the illuminati symbolism will obviously arrive in the same conculsion as us. That’s too much to be only coincidences.
Also in so many mv, you have to be blind really..
But anyway live you life as you want, if you want to continue to sleep and to think you’re waking up..
@poli
are you a retard? learn some English then re-read my comment, before you reply.
and *hint* also go read up on when the illuminati came into power, then maybe you could fit in the jigsaw pieces that is my comment.
seriously, if you were attempting to make an ass out of yourself, congratulations, you have succeeded.
I understand what you’ve told..
It seems, you don’t know anything about christianity, even if i’m not christian i know that the christianity doesn’t forge puppets of God.
God give the free will, he created us and wants good for us, he already has anything he wants he doesn’t need us but we need him, that’s not the case of the illuminatis, they want power they kill and bewitch for that, they choose Lucifer only for that reason, they give their soul to the devil, and they use people as puppet to respond to devil orders.
So the persons who live in the middle ages are not the persons who choose God and think that they are not His puppet, but the person who think they are free and are in fact under devil control.
@poli
yet you don’t seem to understand the simple use of open inverted commas. i clearly quoted “puppets”.
once again, go back and brush up on your English language before you come here to judge others.
since you’re saying God gave mankind freewill, why do they not have the liberty to choose what they wish to do with their lives? Who are YOU to condemn them for making the decisions they make? If they have done something /wrong/, then God will smite them with his power, and no one needs you to pass judgement.
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EDIT: oops. guess who’s comment was edited? YOU be aware of whos post your are commenting on. i have every right to disapprove or delete your comment, so how about you grow some brains? I intentionally did this edit to show you who holds the power here.
and yes, you insinuated that i was blind, by fervently sticking by SHINee.
Unlike you, I actually have a proper grasp of the English language and I understand how to analyse what people say. I take comments as a whole, not just pick up the little words that I do comprehend, and make a big fuss about it.
I love conspiracy theories, but I also know that sometimes people are just really bored and will make up anything to keep you talking about it, even if you’re trying to debunk it. I like that you can make a valid argument. :)
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LOL.. Christianology…
Some people just take this “Illuminati” BS a little too far.. picking out every single small detail and writing a whole life story on it and why they believe it is in some way related to the devil or Illuminati.
However, it is indeed quite interesting reading about conspiracies and “theories” that other people have to share. Although most of it is complete junk, I guess everyone has a right to share what they want to say.
im also a big fan of shinee and a devout christian. I was so disappointed when i saw their title vid, but then i realzied that it wasn’t so bad. Lucifer, after all, means the angel of light and i see nothing wrong with it. THey’re just trying to find a more mature concept for the boys. Besides, wasn’t this what SM wants?? More controversy to the video means it will be more popular, thus giving Shinee instant stardom. The signs in the video could not be passed of as coincidences anyway. So, I think it was deliberately planned by SM to make this one much bigger and more famous than the others.
i found your information very useful. i wasn’t so aware of the controversy until my sister showed a video about lady gaga’s satanic symbols in her logo and videos. and it immediately remind me of shinee’s lucifer. i agreed with poli to just be careful.
sadly i love shinee and dis kind of contamination really pissed me off.
It’s really sad to see a lot of kpop artists slowly showing more signs that they are under the control of illuminati. But whether the artists themselves deliberately and willingly complied with their agencies for the fame and power, i’m not sure. You can clearly see a classic illuminati symbolism at the end of the video, SHINee showing the baphomet symbol! The reason I started listening to Kpop was because US music is tainted with illuminati, but now this! >:@
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If you want some information on ChristianITY (not christianology), either ask someone who knows or research your shit more. Oh, and wikipedia isn’t reliable.
@Anonymous21
i guess you don’t understand the use of italics huh? :))
@sugarpitch
Wow, it was not just a random name stated out of the blue. It was referencing a King that declared his laws supreme, that he was the highest being both on the earth, and above….And there’s no such thing as Christianology, it’s called christianity, people need to do more research before they talk about things that they have no idea about and end up sounding stupid…
And even if Lucifer and Satan are not the same, what people associate Lucifer with is Satan, so when you hear that word, that is automatically what you think of. So nice try, trying to justify it, but FAIL!
@You’re Dumb
you clearly lack the sense of sight since you managed to rant on without looking at the previous comment where I have already highlighted the use of italics along with the word “christianology”. Since people such as yourself have not been blessed with the gift of having a brain, I will do you a favour and directly spell out my reasoning for such a choice of word.
I used the suffix -ology because it connotes facts as a basis rather than -ity because that harbours on fervour and faith; which serves to further bring out my lack of belief in any creationism theories and my skepticism in this lucifer subject as a whole.
I feel that people are overreacting with this whole song. Did anyone think that this might be a small coincidence?
Ya come to think of it the song is a little illuminati.
But think of it this way. Have you ever hear someone say, “Oh God!”
We were told not to use God’s name in vain and you hear that phrase all the time! Or how about this, “Go to Hell!”
Isn’t that considered a little satanic to say that?
So when SHINee used the word Lucifer, i bet they are using that word like the phrases above.
This may sound stupid, but that is how i picture it.
And I bet they didn’t even mean for the song to end up THAT big of a deal. It’s like when the first song that was about sex came out. Did anyone care when those songs came out?! NO!
But when it is something this small, we freak out and have to spread the word!?
I’m sorry but i feel that we are overreacting.
No one should worry about the lyrics. If you are a strong christian, you would stay with it and go to church, pray, etc. Just for singing a song like Lucifer wouldn’t be considered a sin.
That isnt the sign of the baphomet they did at the end bozo’s use your eyes >.>
1.Right hand points up left hand points down(Their’s is the opposite)
2.Look how many fingers they are using? 1 whereas sign of the baphomet is three.
Devil horns 2 fingers index and pinky up if any other fingers were used it isn’t the devil horns anymore. Same concept so don’t spew bullshit about “oh it doesnt matter because they look the same”.
Simply put Lucifer was originally not connected to Satan but some guys decided to fuck that up by referring to him as Satan because maybe probably because they had no one else to throw shit upon. There has been no proof at all saying Lucifer is the devil >.> all there is that has been shown is BLIND REFERENCE.
So get your head out of your ass.
I don’t think the SHINee boys knows what they are doing but they are promoting their stuffs…the backgrounds of when they perform…the movesments the do and the things they wear are illuminati signs..I love them but I kept seeing them wearing or is around this kinda things..and I wonder if they knew it or not. Even BoA..Her Hurricane Venus dance…SHINee’s accessories sometimes are weird..I have pictures of it..I would still love them its just sometimes the things are just…i dont know
You guys are overreacting to this one title it’s no like it’s telling you to praise them or anything WTheck? Where you get illumanti from? And I believe this would never had happened IF the song wasn’t called Lucifer, where would all that illumanti signs and proof go? No where I bet you no one would notice, if the song isn’t Lucifer. Grow up, it’s not like they have a choice to sing/dance it. They signed a contract so what? Their not puppets for that, do they look like their having fun at behind the scenes and other shows like Hello Baby? Do they seriously look like Puppets? O3O
There is way too much of an overreaction in this. The song is simply about an angel or something like that. I don’t get why people make it such a big deal. As long as their intent wasn’t to offened the religion, then everything should be ok. People should seriously loosen up. Times have changed. It’s about time that the way we see things should change as well.
@SuEuniee
Very interesting views presented here! I am religious, but if you’re going to criticise the song based on only the name, you’ll realise that this person I’ve quoted is very right. IF the name had been different, everybody including myself would have watched the vid and listened to the song normally with no complaints!
The reason I decided NOT to watch the MV or listen to the song is, I do NOT want a song with Lucifer’s name stuck in my head. Pushing all other reasons aside, that is the main reason. I cannot bear to have a song with that word stuck in my head and then I would end up singing it too.
People who think that they can escape the illuminati by watching out for every Baphomet sign and every stupid pentagon are fooling themselves. The illuminati is EVERYWHERE. Not just your music. Man people who manufacture your toothpaste, your food, your cars, clothes, EVERYTHING, are also illuminati. They direct the TV shows you watch and control the news you believe. Since some of us are so paranoid about “the illuminati taking over” ok, are you prepared to go live in a cave away from civilization? That’s really the only way. If certain people want to act like they are more knowledgeable than others then make sure you know exactly what is going on. WE CAN’T ESCAPE THEM, WE’RE ALREADY LIVING IN IT EVERYDAY. What is SHINee’s Lucifer compared to that? It’s kind of insignificant, really…don’t you think?
Oh and one more thing. Although I can’t say whether or not Yoo YoungJin intended for it to be illuminati related, I have to say that the song lyrics speak about a reality in this world. There are a lot of people who think they are “desperately in love” with someone. When in fact they are addicted to a bad person and they’re trapped in a sick relationship where there is no love. Just because the person you love seems to be nice the rest of the time doesn’t make up for the fact that they ARE BAD and YOU SHOULD LEAVE. That is the essence of this song. 2PM’s “Again and Again” deals with the same issue. Unfortunately a lot of people will hear Lucifer and still continue in such relationships. People are looking for entertainment but will not learn the lessons that song lyrics can teach them. Few people care to analyse the lyrics they are listening to and they just enjoy the beat and melody.
u can refer to this website for further explanation about shinee and the illuminati thingy.
forgot to put the website address, mianhamnida..:p
http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=4268
i don’t care SHINee rules!!
I’m not trying to offend or diss SHINee or anything but I heard that they were forced to sing lucifer in an illuminati way. I hello??? 13 year contract…. But seriously look at the lyrics and if you see some of the dance moves in the MV it’ll show you some Devil related moves
I would just like to point out that the illuminati Were not repressed radicals in the same connotation as we see repressed radicals today. The Illuminati were actually an underground society of scientists that were created when the Roman Catholic Church started persecuting those who sought to disprove “facts” upheld by the church. One famous example of both an illuminati member and also someone who was persecuted by the church was Galileo Galilei, the astronomer who theorized that the Earth revolved around the Sun, not the other way around. In addition to being placed under house arrest for heresy, many of his writings were banned and burned by the church. So the Illuminati are not evil, nor are they a terrorist organization that is trying to take over the world, they do not as a group worship satin or lucifer, in fact the society of Illuminati does not even exist anymore, they are about as existent as Pagans, with no original part left, people are beginning to emulate them. If you want an example of the illuminati, go to your nearest university science department, that is the closest you will get to a real illuminati.
P.S. Cristianology can’t actually exist. the suffix -ology indicates the use of the scientific method, that requires all experiments to be reproducible, and i’m pretty sure jesus walking on water, or the idea of creationism are not reproducible experiments. just saying
I think if your looking for a conspiracy theory organization to go with, I would be more likely to choose Satanism or maybe scientology, Satanism making more sense with the theory, scientology just being equal on the crazy scale
Shinee are a member of illuminati!!!
At stage live peforming of “Lucifer” = they have always pyramids and masonic(Illuminati) floor BlackWhite pattern.
In the End of the video they showing with they hands up & down! like the picture of lucifer he’ showing up& down too…..u can Google!!!
in the video of “ring ding dong”
u can see theire symbolising the fallen Angel (Luzifer)with black wings and the lead singer always was with white wings…..
it means good vs. evil
Lucifer = Satan = Evil = we dont need this shit!
we need God = peace = Love = that we need in this world***
thanks for the explanation about shinee’s song :]
add me up.. thanks!
Wow! This whole iluminati BS has gone too far. So what if they have pyramids or black and white patterns on their sets? Is there tangible or factual evidence that hanging those things around make you evil? Does this mean that anytime there’s a pyramid or black/white patterned whatever nearby I should go like “Run! Run! There’s a pyramid! You’ll turn evil if you look at it!” or if there is a dog, cat or any animal with black and white markings “Let’s kill that dog. It’s evil!” Seriously!
As far I’m concerned, a pyramid is just a pyramid and black/white/red/blue are just colors. Nothing special. And it’s not like the boys sing about world domination or anything. They mostly sing about cheesy and fun stuff. Nothing remotely evil. I’ve been listening to their songs and watching their performances for a while now and I can say that they haven’t convinced me to do anything evil.
And IF EVER the iluminati does exists, I’m more inclined to believe that those who know every symbol or name that is associated to them are the true iluminatis. Either that, or they are just plain ridiculous and paranoid.
I am a new SHINee fan, I just started listening to their music and I really liked it! I really like these guys but then I saw the Lucifer song and I looked up the lyrics and I read them and it does seem to me to be suggestion something….
I didn’t watch the music video so I won’t come here and say anything about ‘signs’ in it, but when it comes to those things like pyramids and stuff, it’s not that every pyramid is evil first of all….the people who were all doing the evil stuff decided to use that as their symbol, so when you see a pyramid like it, you think about what it represents. If I were making an MV I would not go pyramids all over it because i know that it represents some kinda evil thing.
You may see colours as just colours, but again, some colours are known to represent certain things, whether it’s good or evil.
I’m a Christian….yes Lucifer does mean Angel of Light, but it is also connected to satan for a reason….Lucifer was up in Heaven with all the other Angels, decided he wanted to be God, tried to overpower God but of course he couldnt, so God sent him to hell (that would be his fall from Heaven, it’s like he fell from Heaven to hell) after that, he became known as satan.
What I’m doing, I’m not listening to this song, not watching the MV, just as a pre-caution. But it really upsets me that somehting like this happened because i was trying to get away from it by listening to kpop but it’s eveywhere. We just have to be careful
One more thing, there’s no ‘little sin’ or ‘big sin’ all sins committed are the same, they’re all wrong, and if you know something is wrong but you still do it, it’s still a sin.
I am also a new SHINee fan, through Vigilant Citizen no less. I must say that although I find his conspiracy theories ridiculous (as in laughable, from the Latin ridiculare), it’s a good place to find some great music.
The problem with Biblical literalists is that they take everything literally, including the title of this song. It’s not about Lucifer, for crying out loud! It’s about being trapped in a toxic relationship. Lucifer is a metaphor for codependency and allowing oneself to be chained in lust to a person who will bring you misery. Looking at the devil card in the tarot, you can see why Lucifer might be a good analogy for this type of relationship.
Regarding the hands at the end of the video: Of course they did that as a symbol of Lucifer/Baphomet (or maybe an actual reference to the tarot card); it’s a clever way of referencing the title of the song. It doesn’t imply in any way that they worship him. As someone above stated, the image is backwards and the fingers are wrong, so they might have been subverting it as well as referencing it.
What I hate most about Illuminati conspiracy theories is that they put every interesting, artistic, and creative thing into this big melting pot of an evil organization. The world and the occult are so much more diverse than that. They are so much more interesting than that. Baphomet is not “classic Illuminati symbolism.” Baphomet is older than that. Baphomet is classic symbolism of the Knights Templar, because they were accused of worshiping Baphomet and were persecuted for it (and so that the church could get their wealth).
It is an insult to the creativity and ingenuity of humankind to throw it all under the label “Illuminati” and accuse those individuals who would dare use a pattern or a geometrical shape or a freaking powerful image as being puppets or brainwashed. Artists use these patterns and shapes and images because they are powerful, because they invoke emotion, and because they provoke reaction. More artists are using them now and will use them in the future because people who are terrified of anything that differs from their worldview are blogging about it and bringing them publicity. Sometimes a checkerboard pattern is just a checkerboard pattern. You don’t need to live your life in fear of butterflies; they’re wonderful symbols for a lot of things. If you see a butterfly and think that the person using that symbol is associated with the Illuminati, it’s because you’ve chosen to assign that meaning to the butterfly.
By the way, inane nitpicking of perfectly innocent bands is distracting you from artists that actually practice the occult.
SHINee Lucifer is just merely a song and as what some fans said, its talking about a girl with an outer appearance of an Angel. Perhaps it meant she is a Lucifer in an outer appearance of an Angel?
My interpretation may be wrong.
I am not a fan but instead Cassie supporting their Juniors.
This thing is ridiculous to accuse them of whatever Illuminati.
If anything to blame, blame the one who came out this name.
This name ‘Lucifer’ is a sensitive name/term to Christianity so I am not surprised if ppl starts saying about this song and SHINee.
Ppl, I know some of you are very sensitive and feel a little angry?
But before you place judgments and accusation please read the lyrics and try to derive the true meaning?
And for the MV, come on, how many MVs are in black and white and have the same concept too?
I recently discovered SHINee and the first song I heard of their’s WAS Lucifer. I didn’t really care for the lyrics or the MV, mostly just for the boys themselves..lol. But anyway I was told by a friend how Ring Ding Dong and Lucifer are songs that portray the Illuminati business or whatever. This thing about Illuminati is the reason why I stopped listen to American MUSIC. You never know who’s involved in it and I as a Muslim, try to not delve into these things.
Call me gullible but I believe Poli but, I’m not sure if she mentioned this, they may be portraying this but it is very unlikely that they know about it. They do what they are told to do. They just follow what there managers tell them. It’s sad though that this is how it is but I thank you for opening my eyes. I like SHINee and I’ll continue to listen to some of their music but I will always remember this. It’s sad to see that for success companies will have their artist do anything to gain fame. Tsk tsk
-frowns- you know what? truefully i dont believe in religions or cults. its called being an atheist nomnommm :) This kinda stuff only affects you if you believe in it -___- dont dissing any of you guys that believe in a certain religion/ cult it really is non of my business what you guys believe in. seriously though my personal opinion is that dieties/gods/devils or in this case Lucifer(s) dont exist nor do umm Baphomet? yehhhh :) if you believe in it good for you, if you dont hi5 pal :)
I’m a huge fan of SHINee, and I love their music, including Lucifer. I’m a Hindu, so I don’t really understand most of these references or illuminati conspiracy theories. I just enjoy their music for what it is. Music. And two of the boys are devout Christians, apparently, so I don’t think they would do it if it went against their personal beliefs, which leads me to believe that these boys have no idea what they’re doing. I think it’s really sad, because they’re just like puppets (as established in the song Lucifer) to the company.
I think this song is simply about a guy suffering under an angelic looking girl’s spell. She’s making him fall hard for her and he’ll do anything he can to make her feel the same way.
I think some people take things too far and over analyze things. Illuminati? I have to admit I don’t know much about it… as in, I have no idea! I’m too lazy to Google it haha. However, I know there are apparently satanic messages in songs/dance songs pointed out by some people. I think that’s dumb. The dance move could just be an innocent dance move.
I love God, but I’m not going to let that stop me from listening to a song called “Lucifer” that isn’t even about uplifting satan!!
big fan oh shinee ,haahaa i’m shawol and cassiopeia ,i really didnt know that lucifer or ring ding dong got a conspiracy theories like these before,,to be honest ,i felt that it was a little bit weird when i saw ring ding dong and lucifer for the first time ,but as time goes by i could accept it (bcause of that boys lol keke) ,i just wanna to tell that those boys seems dont understand to the meaning of their own song,dont know what they are doing,and lastly didnt know that it would make these kind of controversy.they just do whatever they told to do by SMent
i couldnt say that this isnt a big thing since i know nothing about christianology (as i am a mulim).just dont over judging and over react of them as they really didnt deserved to be blamed..
always keep the faith :))
sorry, but some comments make me so LOL.
First, the comment above that Visual Kei scene “has been taken” by Satan/Illuminati. Sorry, but I bet you’re a newcomer. Visual Kei/Japan rock scene is almost ALWAYS loves Satanic theme from the start. You can find at least one song that contained illuminati/satanic theme in EVERY band.
Second, SHINee’s title is Lucifer, it’s so in your face, so it’s just suitable if they use satanic symbols in the MV/lyric, and I bet it’s ON PURPOSE.
The problem is, SO WHAT. Those who fuss about it only the freakishly religious people. SHINee can go to the studio and singing that song you claimed as Satanic without even thinking much about it, and after that they’ll go eat ice cream or shopping with their mom (*gasp* you don’t expect they’ll go to some deserted cave to eat babies, don’t you?)
Maybe you’re offended, maybe you’re religious, but maybe… uhm… they don’t even give a f*uck?
I understand if some people are offended if Lucifer are their God/prophet (so SHINee are using their ‘God’s’ name in vain), but in this case it’s Satan for God sake. -_-;;;
Last but not least, the comment above that Kpop artists are treated like puppets. Well you can’t use DBSK members as POV, in fact in that company only 3 of the artists had said so, and the rest are against it. You should really know many side’s POV before jumping into conclusion.
and oh I’m from catholic school by the way.
Well, Heavy Metal bands have been calling for Satan for years now and no one’s got hurt yet. I doubt SHINee are going to be the ones to finally bring on the apocalypse.
i absouletly think that they are NOT illuminati cause for one the song jjust says that the girl is like temptation to them and just beacasue theyre wearing black and white doesntmean anything.
i mean if i would wear black shirt and white pants that would make me illuminati already?? and plus ring ding dong is more of the cool image theyre going for cause theyre not that popular yet right? but i really think they arnt illumintay but it depends on what u belive in@poli
@SuEuniee
I totally agree with u. it is so overreacted
Agree with @poli here.
Love ShinEE.
Hate what “Lucifer” represents, regardless if they know it or not. Bad things always creep in without us knowing.
And whoever wrote this is DUMB. There is no Christianolgy stupid. You may have
“used the suffix -ology because it connotes facts as a basis rather than -ity because that harbours on fervour and faith; which serves to further bring out my lack of belief in any creationism theories and my skepticism in this lucifer subject as a whole.”
,but it’s still WRONG.
There is a thing called “Google”, you know.